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	<title>Commentaires sur : Les soldats français en Afghanistan témoignent: &#171;&#160;À nos frères d&#8217;armes américains&#160;&#187;</title>
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		<title>Par : Zoubor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoubor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Par : Dror</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;La litterature militaire professionnelle americaine a toujours considere tres favorablement les experiences militaires francaises &lt;/em&gt;

Sûr. Le New York Times était très dithyrambique sur le dernier défilé du 14 juillet : je crois que la 69ème divisionnette de marche à pied pédaloïde a fait forte impression de même que le corps blindé europétainiste... Et que dire des caniches de combat et leur maîtres-chiens ?</description>
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<p>Sûr. Le New York Times était très dithyrambique sur le dernier défilé du 14 juillet : je crois que la 69ème divisionnette de marche à pied pédaloïde a fait forte impression de même que le corps blindé europétainiste&#8230; Et que dire des caniches de combat et leur maîtres-chiens ?</p>
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		<title>Par : michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La litterature militaire professionnelle americaine a toujours considere tres favorablement les experiences militaires francaises , arrivant meme a theoriser  des solutions &quot;artisanales&quot; crees par l&#039;armee francaise sur ses theatres d&#039;operations exterieures et nees de la necessite d&#039;adapter la faiblesse des moyens aux imperatifs tactiques ( rajoutons les conditions ou un corps expeditionnaire - Coree , Indochine et dans une moindre mesure Algerie- un peu &quot;oublie&quot; par la Metropole et la hierarchie a eu recours au &quot;systeme D&quot; qui s&#039;est souvent revele fort efficace : GCMA et &quot;DNA - Divisions Navales d&#039;Assaut&quot; en Indochine et &quot;Enveloppement vertical- Paras heliportes&quot; qui donnerent naissance aux &quot;Berets Verts &quot;, aux unites de guerre fluviale US sur le Mekong et ses affluents et a la 1st Cav  .Disons que le regard de l&#039;armee US vis a vis des experiences militaires francaises a toujours ete fort objectif et denue d&#039;a prioris ( mais pas de critiques justifiees et etayees - voir l&#039;article pour des exemples )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La litterature militaire professionnelle americaine a toujours considere tres favorablement les experiences militaires francaises , arrivant meme a theoriser  des solutions &laquo;&nbsp;artisanales&nbsp;&raquo; crees par l&#8217;armee francaise sur ses theatres d&#8217;operations exterieures et nees de la necessite d&#8217;adapter la faiblesse des moyens aux imperatifs tactiques ( rajoutons les conditions ou un corps expeditionnaire &#8211; Coree , Indochine et dans une moindre mesure Algerie- un peu &laquo;&nbsp;oublie&nbsp;&raquo; par la Metropole et la hierarchie a eu recours au &laquo;&nbsp;systeme D&nbsp;&raquo; qui s&#8217;est souvent revele fort efficace : GCMA et &laquo;&nbsp;DNA &#8211; Divisions Navales d&#8217;Assaut&nbsp;&raquo; en Indochine et &laquo;&nbsp;Enveloppement vertical- Paras heliportes&nbsp;&raquo; qui donnerent naissance aux &laquo;&nbsp;Berets Verts &laquo;&nbsp;, aux unites de guerre fluviale US sur le Mekong et ses affluents et a la 1st Cav  .Disons que le regard de l&#8217;armee US vis a vis des experiences militaires francaises a toujours ete fort objectif et denue d&#8217;a prioris ( mais pas de critiques justifiees et etayees &#8211; voir l&#8217;article pour des exemples )</p>
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		<title>Par : Sittingbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sittingbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vous pouvez regarder le post au dessus :) Il ressemble furieusement...</description>
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		<title>Par : michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Un prete pour un rendu ...
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Les Français vus par les Américains
For about two months now I have been working side by side with the French OMLT. I remember when I first showed up to take charge of the combat outpost my unit was located at and I found out it would not just be American forces there but also a small section of French. Being the typical American I was making jokes in my head about the French Army. These last two months have truly been enlightening for me and corrected a grave misconception of the French Army.

Let me say this first I am not envious of their job. Being responsible for training and mentoring the Afghan National Army (ANA) is a job that can only be described as herding cats. Having only worked with the ANA on a couple of missions I have come to realize that the OMLT must have the patience of a Saint. I seriously doubt that I would have the patience to do the job they are doing and I don’t think I could do it nearly as well. Their patience was also displayed almost every night while dealing with me and my soldiers. Due to the rough living conditions some of the OMLT were living in a tent that also housed our television. Although we would try and remain quiet and respect the fact they were sleeping it didn’t always work that way. Too many times while watching a close football game we would begin screaming and yelling over the game. Somehow each night they never yelled at us and never complained. Their patience in dealing with us alone can be considered amazing.

The French willingness to help is amazing. No matter where we, as the American Army, would go the French Commander located at my base would always try to arrange support from his OMLTs and the ANA they were training. Their willingness to support our guys made my job a lot easier and gave me a better feeling knowing that the French OMLT and ANA were watching our back. On more then one occasion we would respond to a situation and when we reached the location the French would already be there and would give me the current situation on the ground.

The French always seem to know what was happening. As an American I, like my fellow Americans, take pride in what we do and think that everything we do is the best. I will have to say when it comes to the French Intelligence versus American Intelligence the French have us beat. All too often the French Commander would come to me and ask if I knew about a situation. I would be forced to stand there and give him the confused puppy look. Typically about thirty minutes after the French told me I would finally get the same information from the American Intelligence. This proved to extremely valuable on more then one occasion. American convoys on several occasions were struck by an IED in which we were informed immediately by the French. Thankfully for their quick reporting we were able to come to the aid of those convoys in a timely manner. Luckily in each case there were no severe casualties however if there had been our ability to quickly respond, due to French information and reporting, would have saved lives.

The French have a handicap; they do not have the training, resources, money, and assets in their military the same as Americans. They have been forced to make due with less and they have still managed to out perform us in some ways. The French military is a force that commands the respect of everyone else in the world. I can’t imagine what they would look like, and how truly incredible a force they could be, if they had the same training, resources, and assets. These past few months have truly opened my eyes and corrected a few misconceptions I’ve had about the French as an American. Although they are not as big as us and sound funny when they talk I am truly grateful to have had this opportunity, and I am honored to call these men my comrades and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Un prete pour un rendu &#8230;<br />
================<br />
Les Français vus par les Américains<br />
For about two months now I have been working side by side with the French OMLT. I remember when I first showed up to take charge of the combat outpost my unit was located at and I found out it would not just be American forces there but also a small section of French. Being the typical American I was making jokes in my head about the French Army. These last two months have truly been enlightening for me and corrected a grave misconception of the French Army.</p>
<p>Let me say this first I am not envious of their job. Being responsible for training and mentoring the Afghan National Army (ANA) is a job that can only be described as herding cats. Having only worked with the ANA on a couple of missions I have come to realize that the OMLT must have the patience of a Saint. I seriously doubt that I would have the patience to do the job they are doing and I don’t think I could do it nearly as well. Their patience was also displayed almost every night while dealing with me and my soldiers. Due to the rough living conditions some of the OMLT were living in a tent that also housed our television. Although we would try and remain quiet and respect the fact they were sleeping it didn’t always work that way. Too many times while watching a close football game we would begin screaming and yelling over the game. Somehow each night they never yelled at us and never complained. Their patience in dealing with us alone can be considered amazing.</p>
<p>The French willingness to help is amazing. No matter where we, as the American Army, would go the French Commander located at my base would always try to arrange support from his OMLTs and the ANA they were training. Their willingness to support our guys made my job a lot easier and gave me a better feeling knowing that the French OMLT and ANA were watching our back. On more then one occasion we would respond to a situation and when we reached the location the French would already be there and would give me the current situation on the ground.</p>
<p>The French always seem to know what was happening. As an American I, like my fellow Americans, take pride in what we do and think that everything we do is the best. I will have to say when it comes to the French Intelligence versus American Intelligence the French have us beat. All too often the French Commander would come to me and ask if I knew about a situation. I would be forced to stand there and give him the confused puppy look. Typically about thirty minutes after the French told me I would finally get the same information from the American Intelligence. This proved to extremely valuable on more then one occasion. American convoys on several occasions were struck by an IED in which we were informed immediately by the French. Thankfully for their quick reporting we were able to come to the aid of those convoys in a timely manner. Luckily in each case there were no severe casualties however if there had been our ability to quickly respond, due to French information and reporting, would have saved lives.</p>
<p>The French have a handicap; they do not have the training, resources, money, and assets in their military the same as Americans. They have been forced to make due with less and they have still managed to out perform us in some ways. The French military is a force that commands the respect of everyone else in the world. I can’t imagine what they would look like, and how truly incredible a force they could be, if they had the same training, resources, and assets. These past few months have truly opened my eyes and corrected a few misconceptions I’ve had about the French as an American. Although they are not as big as us and sound funny when they talk I am truly grateful to have had this opportunity, and I am honored to call these men my comrades and friends.</p>
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		<title>Par : Sittingbull</title>
		<link>http://extremecentre.org/2008/11/21/les-soldats-francais-en-afghanistan-temoignent-a-nos-freres-darmes-americains/comment-page-1/#comment-211245</link>
		<dc:creator>Sittingbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>En anglais:
To our American brothers in arm.

For some time now we have been sharing our quarters with two units, the first and the fourth company of a prestigious infantry battalion which name can not be given for OPSEC reasons. For the average person it is just another unit. For us, who live with them and have learnt to know them, we know we have the honor of serving alongside two of the best known units of the U.S. Army made famous by a series of films dealing with &quot;ordinary soldiers whithin an extraordinary history&quot;.

Who are they, those soldiers coming from the other side of the Atlantic, what is their daily lives and what support do they provide on a daily basis to the men of the French OMLT ? Few of them belong to Easy Company, the company that is the focus of the television series. It is now called Echo Company, and has become, out of necessity, a fire support company.

They have a terrible accent. They are American. That means they do not speak English. How many times did I have to write what I was telling them rather than lose precious minutes to try several pronunciations for a word that might seem trivial? Whatever the state they originate from, it never is the same accent, and even they admit that in some situations they have trouble understanding each other.

Brick shit houses. They all look like brick shit houses. Fed from an early age with Gatorade, protein and creatine, they are taller that we are and bristling with Rambo-like muscles. We have this size handicap which they find highly amusing and they even sometimes mistake us for Afghans, even for the most muscular type among us

Genuine values. Here one discovers America, as it often is depicted: the values they have here are brought to a climax, amplified by promiscuity and loneliness of the post in the middle of this Afghan valley. Honor, Fatherland. Everything here reminds of it; the American flag deployed in the wind above the outpost or the same flag drawn on the post parcels. If US soldiers are often recruited in the heart of gang-ridden American cities, nobody here as any other purpose than to carry the star-spangled banner high and proud. Everyone knows he is supported by an entire people, which treats them well by anonymously sending everything a soldier could need at the front: books, chewing gum, razor blades, powdered drinks (Gatorade, of course! ), toothpaste and so on. So much so that everyone knows he is supported in the difficult tasks he has been assigned to. This is the first clash with clichés: the American soldier is not an individualist. The fire team, the squad, the platoon is the center of his attention.

And what soldiers! We have yet to meet a bad US soldier. Strange when we know how quick to criticize we can be! Even if some of them are slightly overweight, we all receive lessons in infantry tactics on a daily basis. Beyond the fact they never seem to be bothered by having to permanently wear full combat attire (helmet chinstrap, helmet, goggles, combat rifle), long hours of guard in the outpost does not seem to bother them either. Stagging on for five consecutive hours with full kit and night-vision binoculars and always is switched on to the direction of where the danger might come from. No distractions, no breaks, real statues. Ditto for the outpost as soon as night falls. All move in the dark with only a few red lights indicating the presence of a soldier here and there. Ditto for vehicles, all the lights are always hidden. Everything is done in the dark, including using the hand pump to fill up the vehicles.
And what about combat ? If you saw Rambo you&#039;ve seen everything: always there to come to the rescue when one of our teams is in trouble, and always in a very short time. It&#039;s one of their secret: they go from T-shirt and flip flop to full battle dress in three minutes; when they arrive near the enemy position their SOP is simple and sometimes off-putting : they just go for it ! Advocates of the direct assault, they bomb first and ask questions later; no procrastination.

Here, without ever grumbling, and from 5 o&#039;clock in the morning, the chores are performed in an orderly manner. In short, for what we have seen so far, from the passing helicopter which stops next to a broken-down vehicle asking if everything is OK to infantry platoon standing in support of us even before they know if it&#039;s dangerous to do so or not, the American soldier is a fine soldier, worthy heir of those who liberated France and Europe.

For those who do us the honor to welcome us in their combat outposts and every day demonstrate the finest qualities of soldiering, for those who pay every day a heavy price to the deployment of army United States of America on Afghan soil, we dedicate this article, hoping in turn never to disappoint and to continue to hear that we are all the same &quot;band of brothers.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>En anglais:<br />
To our American brothers in arm.</p>
<p>For some time now we have been sharing our quarters with two units, the first and the fourth company of a prestigious infantry battalion which name can not be given for OPSEC reasons. For the average person it is just another unit. For us, who live with them and have learnt to know them, we know we have the honor of serving alongside two of the best known units of the U.S. Army made famous by a series of films dealing with &laquo;&nbsp;ordinary soldiers whithin an extraordinary history&nbsp;&raquo;.</p>
<p>Who are they, those soldiers coming from the other side of the Atlantic, what is their daily lives and what support do they provide on a daily basis to the men of the French OMLT ? Few of them belong to Easy Company, the company that is the focus of the television series. It is now called Echo Company, and has become, out of necessity, a fire support company.</p>
<p>They have a terrible accent. They are American. That means they do not speak English. How many times did I have to write what I was telling them rather than lose precious minutes to try several pronunciations for a word that might seem trivial? Whatever the state they originate from, it never is the same accent, and even they admit that in some situations they have trouble understanding each other.</p>
<p>Brick shit houses. They all look like brick shit houses. Fed from an early age with Gatorade, protein and creatine, they are taller that we are and bristling with Rambo-like muscles. We have this size handicap which they find highly amusing and they even sometimes mistake us for Afghans, even for the most muscular type among us</p>
<p>Genuine values. Here one discovers America, as it often is depicted: the values they have here are brought to a climax, amplified by promiscuity and loneliness of the post in the middle of this Afghan valley. Honor, Fatherland. Everything here reminds of it; the American flag deployed in the wind above the outpost or the same flag drawn on the post parcels. If US soldiers are often recruited in the heart of gang-ridden American cities, nobody here as any other purpose than to carry the star-spangled banner high and proud. Everyone knows he is supported by an entire people, which treats them well by anonymously sending everything a soldier could need at the front: books, chewing gum, razor blades, powdered drinks (Gatorade, of course! ), toothpaste and so on. So much so that everyone knows he is supported in the difficult tasks he has been assigned to. This is the first clash with clichés: the American soldier is not an individualist. The fire team, the squad, the platoon is the center of his attention.</p>
<p>And what soldiers! We have yet to meet a bad US soldier. Strange when we know how quick to criticize we can be! Even if some of them are slightly overweight, we all receive lessons in infantry tactics on a daily basis. Beyond the fact they never seem to be bothered by having to permanently wear full combat attire (helmet chinstrap, helmet, goggles, combat rifle), long hours of guard in the outpost does not seem to bother them either. Stagging on for five consecutive hours with full kit and night-vision binoculars and always is switched on to the direction of where the danger might come from. No distractions, no breaks, real statues. Ditto for the outpost as soon as night falls. All move in the dark with only a few red lights indicating the presence of a soldier here and there. Ditto for vehicles, all the lights are always hidden. Everything is done in the dark, including using the hand pump to fill up the vehicles.<br />
And what about combat ? If you saw Rambo you&#8217;ve seen everything: always there to come to the rescue when one of our teams is in trouble, and always in a very short time. It&#8217;s one of their secret: they go from T-shirt and flip flop to full battle dress in three minutes; when they arrive near the enemy position their SOP is simple and sometimes off-putting : they just go for it ! Advocates of the direct assault, they bomb first and ask questions later; no procrastination.</p>
<p>Here, without ever grumbling, and from 5 o&#8217;clock in the morning, the chores are performed in an orderly manner. In short, for what we have seen so far, from the passing helicopter which stops next to a broken-down vehicle asking if everything is OK to infantry platoon standing in support of us even before they know if it&#8217;s dangerous to do so or not, the American soldier is a fine soldier, worthy heir of those who liberated France and Europe.</p>
<p>For those who do us the honor to welcome us in their combat outposts and every day demonstrate the finest qualities of soldiering, for those who pay every day a heavy price to the deployment of army United States of America on Afghan soil, we dedicate this article, hoping in turn never to disappoint and to continue to hear that we are all the same &laquo;&nbsp;band of brothers.”</p>
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		<title>Par : sil</title>
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		<dc:creator>sil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merci !</description>
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		<title>Par : Mateamargo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mateamargo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Génial !</description>
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		<title>Par : Sittingbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sittingbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercator en reste comme deux ronds de flan.</description>
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