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Apres les chefs de tribus, les insurgents !

Posté le Mercredi 24 octobre 2007 par lagrette

Al qaida en Iraq a commencé par dégouter les cheiks des tribus sunni qui ont alors proposé leurs services aux Americains pour combattre la violence dans leurs regions. Maintenant ce sont les différents groupes d’insurgents qui font des déclarations pour condamner la violence des membres d’Al qaida, qui tuent de façon indiscriminee leurs combattants aussi bien que leurs femmes et enfants.

Insurgent groups condemn al-Qaida tactics

Statements are causing a ruckus in jihadi online forums

By Rich Gardella and the NBC News Investigative Unit

NBC News Investigative Unit

Updated: 2:31 p.m. CT Oct 16, 2007

In a development experts call a significant shift, Iraqi insurgent groups are speaking out against al-Qaida and its brutally violent tactics.

Last week, two groups, Asaeb al-Iraq al-Jihadiya (aka « the Iraqi Jihad Union ») and a splinter faction of the 1920 Revolution Brigades called « Hamas in Iraq » issued statements accusing al-Qaida’s Iraq wing, al-Qaida in Iraq, of brutally killing their fighters and commanders, as well as women and children.

« They have killed them and mutilated their bodies, » reads an English translation of the Iraq Jihad Union’s statement prepared for the NEFA Foundation, a non-profit terrorism research organization. « They dug up their bodies from the graves, further mutilated them, beheaded them, and showed them off from their vehicles.… They committed all of these acts despite the fact that these brothers were faithful to their religion…. »

« The general public suffered a great deal, » reads a similar translation of the Hamas in Iraq statement, describing alleged incidents in the Iraqi town of Ramadi, « because of [al-Qaida fighters’] actions. Every day they witnessed heads or headless bodies lying in the streets. Each one of these victims had been accused of a so-called ‘crime’ prohibited by al-Qaida fatwahs. »

« The al-Qaida network, » the second statement concludes, « has actually made people here think that the occupation forces are merciful and humane by comparison. »

« We ask the leaders of the al-Qaida network, » it continues, « to rethink their bitter journey in Iraq. Let them ask themselves why all the jihadi factions and the people [of Iraq] are standing against them?… They should be more concerned with upholding justice and obeying Allah instead of blindly obeying their organization. »

NBC News terrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann first reported the statements on counterterrorismblog.org.  Kohlmann believes such strong public criticism of al-Qaida in Iraq by other insurgent groups in Iraq is a very significant development.

With these two new statements last week, Kohlmann says, « every single major insurgent group — with the exception of the Ansar al-Sunna Army — has now issued a statement condemning al-Qaida. These are hard-core jihadi groups saying this. These are former al-Qaida allies saying this. »

Brian Fishman, a researcher and instructor at the U.S. Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center at West Point, N.Y., who analyzes jihadi communications, says all the statements suggest « the tide is turning » against al-Qaida in Iraq.

Fishman notes the complaints from all these groups have been similar — faulting al-Qaida in Iraq’s indiscriminately violent tactics. The groups complain al-Qaida in Iraq is brutally attacking and killing their members — attacking and killing anyone who does not do their bidding.

With Iraqi Muslims believing al-Qaida in Iraq to be indiscriminately targeting and killing other Muslims, Fishman says, « Al-Qaida is failing in its effort to position itself as the sole vanguard of Muslims. »

 

The statements suggest that opposition to al-Qaida’s tactics in Iraq could be spreading among Sunni Muslim insurgent groups. In recent months, such opposition has been evident among Sunni tribal leaders in Anbar province and has been credited with helping U.S. troops reduce the number of violent attacks there.

Kohlmann, who closely monitors jihadi Web sites, says the statements are causing an online ruckus in jihadi chat forums, with heated exchanges dividing nationalist Islamists who are increasingly critical of al-Qaida and al-Qaida believers who defend it.

« The reaction has been incredible, » Kohlmann says.  « There’s a huge outpouring of resentment. »  He says there are many angry postings against the groups who have criticized al-Qaida. He says one of the groups just put out a second statement in response, arguing that al-Qaida’s online defenders « don’t know what’s going on » in Iraq.

Are the statements authentic? Or could they be fakes, part of a covert U.S. intelligence strategy?

Kohlmann says he’s convinced they’re authentic. He says the statements are attributed to known, established groups and appeared on Arabic-language Web sites known to be affiliated with or managed directly by terrorism organizations. If the statements were fake, Kohlmann says, the groups would have rushed to publish disclaimers. They have not.

NBC News has not independently confirmed the specific statements.

Meanwhile, al-Qaida in Iraq recently issued a statement of its own, laying out parameters of what al-Qaida in Iraq militants should and should not do.  Fishman sees it as an attempt by al-Qaida in Iraq’s leadership to rein in some of the tactics of its fighters and re-assert its authority.

Although they acknowledge al-Qaida in Iraq is far from defeated and still has the means to continue its attacks in Iraq, both Fishman and Kohlmann see the public criticism of al-Qaida in Iraq by other insurgent groups there as a positive turn in the Iraq war, and a huge opportunity the U.S. should exploit.



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11 réponses à “Apres les chefs de tribus, les insurgents !”

  • 11
    Sittingbull:

    Non, merdator veut susciter des haines ethniques aux US.

    Il manque d’envergure pour ça…

  • 10
    Balagan:

    Et maintenant on a droit aux bobards de l’”administration Mercator ” ! Comment avez vous decide que les 62 morts sont exclusivement ” chicanos ” ? Un voeu pieux ou une affirmation gratuite
    ..
    Non, merdator veut susciter des haines ethniques aux US.

  • 9
    Sittingbull:

    non, c’est radio anti-vietnam, où les conscrits étaient des classses populaires. Mercator ne s’est pas aperçu que l’armée US est professionnelle aujourd’hui.

  • 8
    michael:

    Et maintenant on a droit aux bobards de l' »administration Mercator  » ! Comment avez vous decide que les 62 morts sont exclusivement  » chicanos  » ? Un voeu pieux ou une affirmation gratuite a l’instar de vos grands copains de « Raie Zoo Vaut Le Taire »?
    Mercator , pour l’entretien du plumage d’autruche , vous avez besoin de conseils ?

  • 7
    MERCATOR:

    On a déja connu les « bobards » de l’administration bush, cependant même la presse rostbeef ne prend pas pour argent comptant les rodomontades de ce qui reste de la smala bushiste !

     » Military top brass are wary of making such conclusive claims however, aware of the embarrassment caused by President George W Bush when he addressed troops in front of a « Mission Accomplished » banner in the summer of 2003.

    There have been other examples of over-optimism, notably after the killing in June 2006 of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qa’eda in Iraq, which preceded by some counts the bloodiest six months of the war.

    advertisementEven with recent improvements in security, 62 US military personnel were killed in September, a figure only slightly below average for the past couple of years »

    c’est vrai que la plupart des 62 gi sont des chicanos, pas de quoi en faire un fromage !

  • 6
    michael:

    or nearly $8,000 per man, woman and child
    ++++++++
    Les veinards ! Au moins ils en auront reu pour leur argent ! Quand on compare aux 12.000 Euros que doit chaque francais pour eponger les dettes du fiasco du Credit Lyonnais ………( ils auraient pu avoir au moins l’ancienne direction faisant un numero de claquettes ou un sketch de comique troupier )

  • 5
    Letel:

    Bien vu.
    Pas d’erreur, ils sont cons. Tout est bon, dans un sens ou dans l’autre, même si ça se contredit de façon flagrante, pour faire de la xénophobie nationaliste antiaméricaine.

  • 4
    doucefrance:

    The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could total $2.4 trillion through the next decade, or nearly $8,000 per man, woman and child

    Les USA ruinés par l’Irak ? Ce sont les mêmes qui affirment que l’Amérique a besoin d’une guerre de temps en temps pour relancer son économie…
    Cherchez l’erreur.

  • 3
    Sittingbull:

    $ 8000 sur 10 ans = $800 par an.
    C’est une affaire, si on casse bien du terroriste.

  • 2
    Letel:

    > LES RICAINS VONT BIENTOT MANQUER DE PAPIER !

    Panique à bord chez les adorateurs de dictatures. Ils voient de vagues tendances à la stabilisation du pays, moins d’attentats et de morts, merde alors, et le chaos croissant qui nous ravissait ?

  • 1
    MERCATOR:

    A LIRE DANS USA TO DAY DU 10/24/2007

    LES RICAINS VONT BIENTOT MANQUER DE PAPIER !

    The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could total $2.4 trillion through the next decade, or nearly $8,000 per man, woman and child in the country, according to a Congressional Budget Office estimate scheduled for release today.

    »A previous CBO estimate put the wars’ costs at more than $1.6 trillion. This one adds $705 billion in interest, taking into account that the conflicts are being funded with borrowed money.

    »The new estimate also includes President Bush ‘s request Monday for another $46 billion in war funding, said Rep. John Spratt, D-S.C., budget committee chairman, who provided the CBO’s new numbers to USA TODAY.

    »Assuming that Iraq accounts for about 80% of that total, the Iraq war would cost $1.9 trillion, including $564 million in interest, said Thomas Kahn, Spratt’s staff director. The committee holds a hearing on war costs this morning.

    »“The number is so big, it boggles the mind,” said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill.

    »Sean Kevelighan, a spokesman for the White House budget office, said, “Congress should stop playing politics with our troops by trying to artificially inflate war funding levels.” He declined to provide a White House estimate.»

    … Pour mémoire, l’évaluation du coût de la guerre en Irak par l’administration Bush au printemps 2003, lorsque l’attaque fut lancée, était de $50 milliards.