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Posté le Lundi 24 septembre 2007 par Sittingbull
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18 réponses à “Mini-Hitler à Columbia University”
26 sept 07 à 11:35
Tient, l’Irak est disparu de l’écran-radar de L’extrême-cendre ?
Pas de nouvelle, bonne nouvelle.
Effectivement, plus aucune “horreur irakienne” à la une des journaux depuis belle lurette. On comprendra à la lecture de ces stats :
Taux de décès parmi les militaires le plus bas depuis 08/06 (de plus, 22 soldats US sur le total de 59 sont des “non-hostile casualties”, probablement le plus grand ratio jamais enregistré).
Quant aux victimes irakiennes, si la tendance actuelle persiste, le mois de septembre sera le moins meurtrier depuis janvier 2006. La période de Ramadan, accompagnée habituellement d’éruptions de violences, reste exceptionnellement calme par rapport aux années précédentes.
26 sept 07 à 07:07
Réflexions, échos sur l’invitation:
It is rather silly of Bollinger to invite Ahmadinejad and then berate him. On the other hand, it would be far sillier to genuflect before this “world leader.” So Bollinger was simply making the best of the bad situation he had created for himself.
And to judge by the news coverage, the results were actually better than one might have hoped for. Ahmadinejad succeeded in making a laughingstock of himself, and the reactions reported in the press suggest that, the political biases of the faculty notwithstanding, the kids are all right. From the New York Times:
Students said they found his links between science and religion ridiculous.
“It was utterly disgraceful, and it was an utter waste of time,” said Sara Aries, a 21-year-old senior in studying [sic] forensics. “The man did not answer any of the questions that were posed to him.”
Nora Ganley-Roper, 21, a physics student, agreed. “For Columbia to stick out its neck, it would have been much more helpful if he answered the questions.” . . .
Elie Lehmann, a junior from Boston majoring in religion, said he approved of Mr. Bollinger’s remarks. “Many people were upset with President Bollinger’s issuing the invitation,” he said. “His remarks gained him a lot of respect back.”
Amital Isaac, 18, who was wearing an anti-Ahmadinejad T-shirt, said that she was glad to hear from Iran’s president and that she thought the speech raised interesting questions.
“He began the speech with religion, and everyone on the lawn was rolling their eyes,” she said. “They knew it was propaganda.” But, it got people talking, “and that doesn’t happen every day.”
The Washington Post quotes one old New Yorker who defends the Ahmadinejad appearance on “spot the idiot” grounds:
“Let him speak–let him open his mouth,” said Pearl Atkins, 74, a Manhattan resident who lost relatives in the Holocaust. “This is America; people get their say here, not like in Iran. He only makes himself sound more stupid with every word anyway.”
The Post’s Dana Milbank echoes Atkins:
There were similar protests outside the National Press Building in Washington, where reporters gathered to question Ahmadinejad in a videoconference. “Don’t give him any press!” shouted one woman.
But that objection misses a crucial point: Without listening to Ahmadinejad, how can the world appreciate how truly nutty he is?
“In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country,” he informed the Columbia audience.
That last comment is especially delightful in light of the prespeech pro-Ahmadinejad commentary from the likes of Sally Kohn and Glenn Greenwald.
25 sept 07 à 23:25
My name is Shahlaa al-Nasrawi, and I would like to speak to Colombia too, but I was murderd when the american congress gave money to BlackWather USA.
25 sept 07 à 23:14
How do you explain the American refusal to see the Iranian president bow his head at Ground Zero as he had wished?
Contrary to the official reasons invoked, this is purely and simply a political decision. At a time when Bush is right in the middle of a test of strength with Iran, it would have been incomprehensible for the symbol of Iranian radicalism to go to Ground Zero. By proposing to go there on 9/11, Ahmadinejad offered one more provocation. But we must however remember that Iran very quickly condemned the September 11 attacks. Moreover, during the American riposte in Afghanistan, Iran authorized US aviation to fly over its territory. Khatami was still president at the time, and, even if he never directly collaborated with the United States, he demonstrated his goodwill. Bush’s mistake was not to jump up and seize the Iranian opening.
25 sept 07 à 23:11
Tient, l’Irak est disparu de l’écran-radar de L’extrême-cendre ?
25 sept 07 à 20:15
Et que pensez-vous de ça?:
Et la “lettre persane” de Robert Sole
Mon cher Usbek, New York est encore plus grand que Téhéran. Les maisons y sont si hautes qu’on jugerait qu’elles ne sont habitées que par des astrologues. Mais les habitants de cette ville enchanteresse ont une manière de recevoir leurs hôtes qui n’est point du tout persane. Le président de l’Université Columbia, qui avait insisté pour m’inviter, m’a présenté comme “un dictateur minable et cruel”, avant de me poser mille questions inconvenantes auxquelles je me suis employé à ne pas répondre.
A lire les reactions on pourrait meme penser que l’Iran des mollahs est un haut lieu de la civilisation.
25 sept 07 à 17:31
Pas une raison de légitimer un “débat”. La propagande interne iranienne s’en fout.
Sur l’aveuglement universitaire
25 sept 07 à 14:53
Et que pensez-vous de ça?:
25 sept 07 à 09:06
“atroce à voir, cette gauche qui est à l’extrême droite. je crois qu’il faut se préparer au pire”
Un autre exemple illustre bien ça, même avec la gauche modérée : il y a ce soir en France à la télé un documentaire sur Humanbomb, le gars qui a pris en otage des enfants à Neuilly et où Sarkozy est intervenu. Dans la critique du film par Télérama, on peut lire ceci, sous la plume d’un crétin qui s’appelle Samuel Douhaire, à la fin : “En particulier les séquences, garanties authentiques, où le futur chef de l’Etat négocie la libération des enfants comme un marchand de tapis…”
Autrement dit, le sale type, ce n’est pas celui qui va prendre des enfants en otage avec une bombe, c’est bien Sarkozy, un marchand de tapis. Inversion totale des valeurs morales, perte des repères absolue, incapacité à voir un seul aspect favorable chez un adversaire politique. Télérama, le journal le plus politiquement correct de la planète, d’un conformisme bêlant, rempli de gens haineux et déboussolés comme ce Douhaire.
25 sept 07 à 01:37
L’auteur du texte ci-dessous, récupéré du site du WP, s’appelle Miklós Vámos. Il est hongrois. Il est entre autres l’auteur de deux nouvelles :
How I’ll become an American
Coke Abuse
24 sept 07 à 23:12
Other Presidents Should Follow Ahmedinejad’s Lead
Congratulations, America! You decided to let a man into your country who doesn’t like you at all. In fact, you only let him in to Manhattan to talk to the students of the Columbia University and to the General Assembly at the UN. Although this is Ahmedinejad’s third visit to the U.S. since he has been in office, this time his visa is valid only in Manhattan. He wanted to pay tribute at Ground Zero, but his request to go there was denied.
I think that decision was wrong. Yes, many people believe that terrorist groups have strong relationships with Iran. If that’s true, images of the Iranian President at the memorial site might cause terrorists to think about the destruction. If that’s not true, then what is the problem with his presence there?
Some of President Ahmedinejad’s speeches remind me of the old rock song, “Wild Thing.” When he claims there are no homosexuals in Iran, I am surprised, indeed. Still, even the wildest speeches are better than the most “regular” wars. When a politician wants to address inquiring minds, he is doing the right thing. Why would anyone stop him from doing that?
Columbia University should be proud of itself. Others should follow its example. President Bush should speak at important universities in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran – and he shouldn’t be surprised if he receives visas for only a single district in the Arab cities he visits.
24 sept 07 à 20:44
atroce à voir, cette gauche qui est à l’extrême droite. je crois qu’il faut se préparer au pire
24 sept 07 à 19:52
On assiste ici à un écroulement moral, les manifs pour protester sont minuscules, beaucoup de réactions favorables…déprimant
24 sept 07 à 19:30
Comme s’il n’y avait pas eu les attentats en France, les otages francais du Liban, les paras francais du Drakkar, … c’est ahurissant.
24 sept 07 à 19:29
Un papier de cigarette…
24 sept 07 à 19:27
Mea Culpa. Ce n’est pas Corine, c’est l’AFP.
24 sept 07 à 19:25
Oui elle est conneue comme le loup blanc
24 sept 07 à 19:21
Car selon M. Bush, qui a fait de l’Iran l’un des Etats de “l’axe du Mal”, le régime islamique arme les extrémistes chiites contre les soldats américains en Irak et en Afghanistan, aide les talibans, soutient le Hezbollah qui œuvre à la déstabilisation du gouvernement libanais, et appuie les groupes anti-israéliens considérés comme terroristes.
Selon moi, cette Corinne est une epouvantable conne.
Il n’y a meme pas un “Reaction des lecteurs” pour se defouler….
